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Arvinc
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#11 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:02 pm

AlanMcR wrote:I don't think that there was a 1996 G55, so that alone is a bit fishy.
A picture of the engine compartment would be interesting.

A W463 uses:
4Q - Differential Oil: Red Line 75W90 (1.4L front, 1.8L rear)
3Q - Transfer Case oil: Red Line MT90 (2.8L)
7?Q - Transmission oil: Any ATF 134 will do, I use Shell
That transmission recommendation is making the assumption that you have a 722.6 or 722.7.



Yea, I agree, the seller wasn't particularly helpful in "is it actually an AMG department" ...

Thanks for the info on the oil capacity.

Will upload some pics of the engine bay...as soon as I get in.

Arvinc
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#12 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:14 pm

AlanMcR wrote:I don't think that there was a 1996 G55, so that alone is a bit fishy.
A picture of the engine compartment would be interesting.

A W463 uses:
4Q - Differential Oil: Red Line 75W90 (1.4L front, 1.8L rear)
3Q - Transfer Case oil: Red Line MT90 (2.8L)
7?Q - Transmission oil: Any ATF 134 will do, I use Shell
That transmission recommendation is making the assumption that you have a 722.6 or 722.7.


Also may i ask why did you distinguish between the two redline oils...both redline oils i mentioned come 75w90?

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Chris
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#13 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:38 pm

Gl-4 vs Gl-5

Arvinc
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#14 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:24 pm

Chris wrote:Gl-4 vs Gl-5


Yeah both GL4 and GL5 oils come 75w90 weighting.

The only reason i asked about the GL4 and GL5 is because of my experience with my w211 AMG wagon, that has to get hypoid gear oil (GL5) so i as wondering if it was a similar case with the diffs in the G wagen.

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inkblotz
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#15 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:22 pm

Pictures of the engine would be nice. For them to go from allegedly a G55 motor to a 5 cyl diesel is doubtful. And as others pointed out there was no G55 in 96.
Sounds interesting post some photos would like to see what you have.

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mogwild
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#16 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:49 pm

Post up the VIN if the seller will give it (if you purchased it, you should have it) and we'll pull the data cards and see what it originally was.
-trev

Arvinc
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#17 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:52 pm

Trying to post some pics, but i am having to resize everything it seems.

The vin is WDB46323117105533

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mogwild
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#18 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:05 pm

Arvinc wrote:Trying to post some pics, but i am having to resize everything it seems.

The vin is WDB46323117105533


Japanese vehicle originally by the looks of it, 320, but with the G36 3.6l AMG order codes (So AMG, is true) just not a "G55 AMG":

320.jpg


Data Card (Also see attached PDF's):
2018-07-11 21_06_07-Datacard.jpg


SA Codes:
3572 (no designation available)
580 AIR CONDITIONER
581 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL
C27 Front springs stronger degree I
C75 Brush guard
D27 Tilting/sliding sunroof, electric
D80 Symbol disc
F01 Cab parts special to country
F46 Headlamp washing system
G75 Differential gear speedometer
H02 Air conditioning, manual
H10 Heated front seats
J59 Warning device for belt and speed limiter
K01 tank/exhaust special to country
L01 Lights special to country
M97 Fuel colling
P37 Wider wings in vehicle colour with met. paintwork
RB9 Stainless steel spare wheel cover
S37 Armrest for driver's seat
S38 Armrest for co-driver's seat
S71 Side-facing bench seat, right
S72 Side-facing bench seat, left
SB5 Left front seat electrically adjustable
SB6 Right front seat electrically adjustable
T84 Stainless Steel Side Running Boards
U46 Leather interior
V18 Interior black
V51 Electric window lift, 4 windows
V56 Trim, burr walnut
V63 Luggage nets on seat-backs
Y52 10 Litres of fuel additional
ZB5 Conversion for engine variant 3,6 Liter (AMG)

SA Numbers:
01 012457/27 ENGINE PARTS W/AIR CONDITIONER, SEE STANDARD MICROFICHE
01 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
03 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
07 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
13 012457/27 ENGINE PARTS W/AIR CONDITIONER, SEE STANDARD MICROFICHE
13 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
14 012295/72 INSTRUCTION PLATE - ENGINE TUNING DATA
14 012433/13 ELECTRIC CHANGE-OVER VALVE
14 012457/27 ENGINE PARTS W/AIR CONDITIONER, SEE STANDARD MICROFICHE
14 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
14 028703/04 SV ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT USED FOR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
15 012457/27 ENGINE PARTS W/AIR CONDITIONER, SEE STANDARD MICROFICHE
15 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
18 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
20 012457/27 ENGINE PARTS W/AIR CONDITIONER, SEE STANDARD MICROFICHE
20 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
22 012458/45 AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
29 028502/13 SV PEDAL ASSEMBLY
32 028519/14 SV FRONT AND REAR SPRINGS
42 028502/13 SV PEDAL ASSEMBLY
46 028745/04 SV TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
47 028512/06 SV FUEL SYSTEM
47 028512/07 SV FUEL SYSTEM
49 028556/04 SV PARTS USED G 36 AMG
49 028703/04 SV ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT USED FOR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
49 028746/02 SV OVERHEAT WARNING INDICATOR
50 028514/11 SV COOLING,VIN .............
52 000000/00 UNGEPRUEFTE VARIANTE
54 028502/13 SV PEDAL ASSEMBLY
54 028556/04 SV PARTS USED G 36 AMG
54 028703/04 SV ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT USED FOR AIR POLLUTION CONTROL
54 028706/03 SV ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT USED FOR WINDOW REGULATORS
54 028713/03 SV SEAT HEATING
54 028714/02 SV HEADLAMP WIPER/WASHER,ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT
54 028722/02 SV SPEED/SAFETY-BELT WARNING INDICATOR
54 028729/04 SV ELEC.EQUIPMT. TO A/C & AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
54 028732/76 SV INSTRUMENT CLUSTER SYMBOL PLATE
54 028739/02 SV ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT USED FOR SLIDING/LIFTING ROOF
54 028745/04 SV TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL)
54 028746/02 SV OVERHEAT WARNING INDICATOR
54 028753/01 SV SEAT ADJUSTER ELECTR.EQUIPMENT
54 028757/02 SV CHASSIS ELECTR. EQUIPMENT
58 028556/04 SV PARTS USED G 36 AMG
63 059323/06 SV FENDER WIDENING
64 028556/04 SV PARTS USED G 36 AMG
64 059331/24 SV BUMPER
65 059232/02 SV ELECTRIC SLIDING/LIFTING ROOF
68 028556/04 SV PARTS USED G 36 AMG
68 059379/08 SV ORNAMENTAL WOOD COVERS AND WOOD COVERING
68 059379/22 SV ORNAMENTAL WOOD COVERS AND WOOD COVERING
68 059379/25 SV ORNAMENTAL WOOD COVERS AND WOOD COVERING
68 059379/27 SV ORNAMENTAL WOOD COVERS AND WOOD COVERING
68 059379/29 SV ORNAMENTAL WOOD COVERS AND WOOD COVERING
68 059379/31 SV ORNAMENTAL WOOD COVERS AND WOOD COVERING
68 059379/33 SV ORNAMENTAL WOOD COVERS AND WOOD COVERING
69 059207/02 SV SAFETY BELTS
69 059232/02 SV ELECTRIC SLIDING/LIFTING ROOF
69 059251/01 SV HAND STRAP SERVING AS A BOARDING AID IN CASE OF LONGITUDINAL SEAT BENCH, SEE STA
69 059323/06 SV FENDER WIDENING
72 059210/21 SV DOOR PANELLING
72 059375/03 SV ELECTRIC WINDOW REGULATORS
72 077211/01 SV OUTSIDE REARVIEW
72 077211/02 SV OUTSIDE REARVIEW
73 059210/21 SV DOOR PANELLING
73 059375/03 SV ELECTRIC WINDOW REGULATORS
74 059210/21 SV DOOR PANELLING
74 059243/10 SV SPARE WHEEL COVERING
75 059243/10 SV SPARE WHEEL COVERING
78 059232/02 SV ELECTRIC SLIDING/LIFTING ROOF
82 059203/04 TAIL LAMPS, (SEE STANDARD MICROFICHE NO. 1055)
82 059232/02 SV ELECTRIC SLIDING/LIFTING ROOF
82 059270/19 SV FRONT SEAT
82 059270/20 SV FRONT SEAT
82 059270/27 SV FRONT SEAT
82 059270/28 SV FRONT SEAT
82 059368/11 SV SEAT HEATING
82 059368/12 SV SEAT HEATING
83 059235/01 SV AIR CONDITIONER
86 059223/03 SV HEADLAMP WIPER/WASHER
88 059209/04 SV MUD APRONS
88 059223/03 SV HEADLAMP WIPER/WASHER
88 059251/01 SV HAND STRAP SERVING AS A BOARDING AID IN CASE OF LONGITUDINAL SEAT BENCH, SEE STA
88 059254/02 SV LOWER Body ............
88 059323/06 SV FENDER WIDENING
88 059331/24 SV BUMPER
88 059391/02 SV ROCKER PANEL
91 059270/19 SV FRONT SEAT
91 059270/20 SV FRONT SEAT
91 059270/27 SV FRONT SEAT
91 059270/28 SV FRONT SEAT
91 059281/01 SV LUGGAGE NET
91 059368/11 SV SEAT HEATING
91 059368/12 SV SEAT HEATING
91 059369/05 SV ARMRESTS
91 059369/06 SV ARMRESTS
91 077210/01 SV SEAT BOX 500GE
92 059363/04 SV REAR SEAT BENCH
93 059236/06 SV LONGITUDINAL SEAT BENCH

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-trev

Arvinc
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#19 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:07 pm

mogwild wrote:
Arvinc wrote:Trying to post some pics, but i am having to resize everything it seems.

The vin is WDB46323117105533



That is amazing, thanks..may i ask how/where did you access the information?

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mogwild
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Re: New to G wagens...help needed

Post#20 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:12 pm

This website which I learned about on this very forum: https://www.datamb.com/ This often give the country of origin, which the EPC doesn't always, and the proper color name which the EPC doesn't always, as well as some of the SA Codes that don't translate from the EPC. However notice that that website doesn't tranlate the "ZB5" order code, that's very important on this vehicle since that tells us the original engine was upgraded to the 3.6L AMG variant.

And the EPC/workshop system, which gives the SA Codes and SA Numbers, (Some of which the above website doesn't pull) together they paint a good picture of what the vehicle should have left the factory with, and that gives potential buyers a good idea if the vehicle is as advertised, repainted, vin swapped, etc. The more ammo you have as a buyer, the better you can negotiate or avoid bad eggs.
-trev

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